Dear 2f.
Please post your comments/answers for my questions concering your written assignment on the issue of equality in Denmark. Post your comments/answers as an individual "indlæg".
Are you saying that money is the only motivation/reward for hard work? Yes, I think that most people is motivated because they knew, they will get a pay/reward of their job/work. Therefor I think that it´s only some few persons as work for free. But still I think it´s important that you have an interesting job and to seek new challenges. Because, even though you got a good pay for your job, it have to be pretty good, if you want to do something everyday, as you doesn´t think is interesting/like. So I conclude that; the pay means a lot, but to have an interesting and exciting job means a lot too.
How about respect and compliments from other people/ your boss/ teachers/ colleagues? I think it´s very important to have a good relationship to your colleagues, it makes the day at the job better and more funny. You have to discuss, sparring, make compliments to your colleagues if they or you do something good for the company. To be praised, just get the employees more motivated, and then they focused more on doing something good for the firm. So respect and compliments between bosses and employees is important to maintain a good working environment.
Hello Cecilie, I think I have the solution to how more people could like what they do and at the same time be of value to society: Each person in Denmark will get a certain amount of money each year and then they can basically do what they like to do. I can continue working as a high school teacher. Or I could choose to write poems or letters-to-the-editor (læserbreve) that other people could read and comment on, or I would have the time to bake spelt bread for the children in my son's børnehave or play my banjo in the middle of Aarhus which people then could enjoy. Then I would still contribute/give something to society, get paid, but not have a "normal job". How do you like that idea?
Is money the only motivation for hard work? No money isn't always motivation for hard work. Of cause a nice complement from a collaague helps - especially I mean that good colleauge is very important. Basically,if you work, you should have your money for it. Is work the only thing that a society should reward? It could be nice to get money for things like graffity and voluntary work but I mean that it isn't necessarily for these people to get money for it, they could just get a normal job. It's their choice...
I agree that people should be paid for the job they carry out. Personally, even though I actually like my job, I'm happy that I get paid for my job . However, my point is that people can give something/can produce value to society without having "a normal" job. How do you like this idea: Every person in Denmark will get a certain amount of money each year and then they can basically do what they like to do. I can continue working as a high school teacher. Or I could choose to write letters-to-the-editor (læserbreve) that other people could comment on, or I would have the time to bake buns/cake for the children in my son's børnehave or produce improvised theatre in the middle of Aarhus that people could enjoy. Then I would still contribute/give something to society, get paid, but not have a "normal job". My overall point is, can't we trust that people will actually produce something for society based on what they would like to do? some would continue working in their "normal jobs" and some would do a lot of different things - that still have value to society. What do you say, Camilla?
You asked me all theese questions: Aren't you underestimating people? Couldn't it be the case that some people actually choose a long education + hard work because they have an interest in what they do? They might see it as a fullfilling. So the reward is not simply money but also respect from colleagues and society in general?
- I'll try to give you an explenation: I believe that in most cases, money are the biggest motivation for getting your ass out of the sofa and get an education. Sure some people are different, but in general, no. If everyone would earn the same size of paychek, most people would see education and a job as a geeky hobby. Theese "geeks" would probably not get any social achievements for their hard work, since the civilization denies their access to social life. Highschools would therefore simply become a meetingplace for the outcasts, while everyone else are sitting in front of their plasma TV watching the same DVD over and over again. Or cleansing toilets at the inexisting hospital (since nobody wants to study for fifteen years to get paid like a babysitter). That's why!
I can't quite follow the logic in your statement that equal pay for different jobs would result in people seeing a job as a geeky hobby. What do you actually mean? People are still being paid for their work - and no one says (a bigger degree of) equal pay means that a doctor earns the same as the person cleaning toilets. Furthermore, one answer to your statement that high schools would be the meeting place for the outcast could be this: Well, couldn't another word for these "outcasts" be "motivated students". In other words, if people choose an education or job based on their interest and passion - and not based on the paychek - wouldn't this mean that you get more enthusiastic, hardworking and motivated workers/students?
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Are you saying that money is the only motivation/reward for hard work?
SvarSletYes, I think that most people is motivated because they knew, they will get a pay/reward of their job/work. Therefor I think that it´s only some few persons as work for free. But still I think it´s important that you have an interesting job and to seek new challenges. Because, even though you got a good pay for your job, it have to be pretty good, if you want to do something everyday, as you doesn´t think is interesting/like. So I conclude that; the pay means a lot, but to have an interesting and exciting job means a lot too.
How about respect and compliments from other people/ your boss/ teachers/ colleagues?
I think it´s very important to have a good relationship to your colleagues, it makes the day at the job better and more funny. You have to discuss, sparring, make compliments to your colleagues if they or you do something good for the company. To be praised, just get the employees more motivated, and then they focused more on doing something good for the firm. So respect and compliments between bosses and employees is important to maintain a good working environment.
Cecilie
Hello Cecilie,
SletI think I have the solution to how more people could like what they do and at the same time be of value to society: Each person in Denmark will get a certain amount of money each year and then they can basically do what they like to do. I can continue working as a high school teacher. Or I could choose to write poems or letters-to-the-editor (læserbreve) that other people could read and comment on, or I would have the time to bake spelt bread for the children in my son's børnehave or play my banjo in the middle of Aarhus which people then could enjoy. Then I would still contribute/give something to society, get paid, but not have a "normal job". How do you like that idea?
Is money the only motivation for hard work?
SvarSletNo money isn't always motivation for hard work. Of cause a nice complement from a collaague helps - especially I mean that good colleauge is very important. Basically,if you work, you should have your money for it.
Is work the only thing that a society should reward?
It could be nice to get money for things like graffity and voluntary work but I mean that it isn't necessarily for these people to get money for it, they could just get a normal job. It's their choice...
I agree that people should be paid for the job they carry out. Personally, even though I actually like my job, I'm happy that I get paid for my job . However, my point is that people can give something/can produce value to society without having "a normal" job.
SletHow do you like this idea: Every person in Denmark will get a certain amount of money each year and then they can basically do what they like to do. I can continue working as a high school teacher. Or I could choose to write letters-to-the-editor (læserbreve) that other people could comment on, or I would have the time to bake buns/cake for the children in my son's børnehave or produce improvised theatre in the middle of Aarhus that people could enjoy. Then I would still contribute/give something to society, get paid, but not have a "normal job". My overall point is, can't we trust that people will actually produce something for society based on what they would like to do? some would continue working in their "normal jobs" and some would do a lot of different things - that still have value to society. What do you say, Camilla?
You asked me all theese questions:
SvarSletAren't you underestimating people? Couldn't it be the case that some people actually choose a long education + hard work because they have an interest in what they do? They might see it as a fullfilling. So the reward is not simply money but also respect from colleagues and society in general?
- I'll try to give you an explenation:
I believe that in most cases, money are the biggest motivation for getting your ass out of the sofa and get an education. Sure some people are different, but in general, no.
If everyone would earn the same size of paychek, most people would see education and a job as a geeky hobby. Theese "geeks" would probably not get any social achievements for their hard work, since the civilization denies their access to social life. Highschools would therefore simply become a meetingplace for the outcasts, while everyone else are sitting in front of their plasma TV watching the same DVD over and over again. Or cleansing toilets at the inexisting hospital (since nobody wants to study for fifteen years to get paid like a babysitter). That's why!
I can't quite follow the logic in your statement that equal pay for different jobs would result in people seeing a job as a geeky hobby. What do you actually mean? People are still being paid for their work - and no one says (a bigger degree of) equal pay means that a doctor earns the same as the person cleaning toilets. Furthermore, one answer to your statement that high schools would be the meeting place for the outcast could be this: Well, couldn't another word for these "outcasts" be "motivated students". In other words, if people choose an education or job based on their interest and passion - and not based on the paychek - wouldn't this mean that you get more enthusiastic, hardworking and motivated workers/students?
Slet